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• Song Name: 78. Ripping Out the Copper Wiring
• Artist: On the Time Lash
• Album: Series 7b

Ben and Mark take two very different journeys to the centre of the TARDIS as they discuss 'Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS' and 'The Invasion of Time'.

Just what is it about the Doctor's TARDIS that fascinates people so much? And similarly, what's the obsession with Gallifrey? We don't have the answers, but they're questions worth positing.

Under discussion: Reprehensible and terrifying supporting characters, bottle episodes, tinfoil, Star Trek, Yes, Minister, an eloquent analysis of Steven Moffat's approach to time travel and the excellence of Milton Johns.

ALSO: Mark outlines Leela's life in spin-off media to an increasingly anxious and upset Ben.

WARNING! May contain looms.